Regionalize into Three Symbolic Neighborhood regions

[Waterbuffalo]

While the city of Vancouver has been growing tremendously, I heard from City of Vancouver Harris comments about not being able to visit with "ALL" of the neighborhoods in a year to hear there concerns and to get to know each of them sufficiently.

An idea I thought of (instead of having each political hot seat have its own district) was to "regionalize" or confederalize in small coalitions of NA's in what ever form they so choose into small batches. Say 10 NA's come together to form an "East Vancouver coalition?" "Central Vancouver" "Salmon Creek Association"

The list is on and on of how this could be done.

[Chief]

Are you referring to some sort of modified "District" voting system, with Council Candidates elected from each, instead of all "At Large" like it is now?

[Waterbuffalo]

Chief, no.. Not even close.. More like a close federation or grouping by personal association or NA coming together of their own free will.

[Chief]

That is the definition of a City WB, and the legal mechanism to accomplish that is to Incorporate. That kind of legal dicking around with words is exaclty what the Commissioners and the City are trying to put an end to. Time for the Adults in the rom to stand up and take charge, or the next thing ywe'll have is the Rosemere NA running a slate of candidates for Mayor & City Council for the City of Novanno (Not Vancouver, North...).

Think it's messy now? Keep it up.

[Waterbuffalo]

That is the definition of a City WB, and the legal mechanism to accomplish that is to Incorporate. That kind of legal dicking around with words is exaclty what the Commissioners and the City are trying to put an end to. Time for the Adults in the room to stand up and take charge, or the next thing ywe'll have is the Rosemere NA running a slate of candidates for Mayor & City Council for the City of Novanno (Not Vancouver, North...).

Think it's messy now? Keep it up.

Novanno? ;-) Love it! May be that will pass Karma's Smell test?

Could not agree with you more that I'd like to see the dickering and sniping to end. But do you think that ever will?

What I was thinking wasn't districting and linking that district that was created to a City of Vancouver member. What I was advocating for was a loose confederation of NA. Not some political bent and ranting and loonery from some one on the east side.

[Chief]

Yes, it will end, in accordance with the schedule the City Council is considering tonight. Either it ends by incorporating a new City, or it will end by the are being annexed into Vancouver. I assure you, the bickering will end one way or another. The loose confederation of NA's doesn't have a legal definition under existing law that I am aware of, ergo the only 2 choices available are as I suggested...

[Waterbuffalo]

Well may be its not in some legal form or process? Why can it not just be some thing that a group of citizens or group of NA members do that has no legal precepts?

[Chief]

The law is on the side of the County and the City of Vancouver on this, and as long as they provide due process, and adequate time to move forward, they will stand on the Law and Annex. We can "yeah, but" this for as long as you want, but Orchards needs to wake up and smell the coffee right now. Felida and Hazel Dell need to wake up too, but they get more time...

[karma]

Buff, let's just make this simple, City NA and VUGB NA.

Chief, I have been screaming for a while about 10 year now, annex us!!

[Waterbuffalo]

When do I get to welcome Karma into the City of Vancouver Political Rodeo by annexation??

Chief, I am not speaking of annexation, districting or any of these other legal means. Why can't Neighbors come together to form a basic and symbolic region group, but still keep there independence and needs separate?

[Chief]

In short WB, because we need to operate under the Law as it stands, not what we wish it could, should, or would be. Again, there are many critical issues that need to be decided, and we have to move forward, under the Law, and resolve this once and for all.

[Waterbuffalo]

Since I am going to agree with you on the subject right now and not give Certain members of the Cave-in club any fresh wisdom or ideas, lets put the idea out of its misery once and for all..

Any ways, I miss Karma's postings.. Always need her intuition and wisdom..

[karma]

Buff, you need to know the history of both the City and County Neighborhood Assn. to know this is never going to happen!! There is do much not in my back yard and cut throats to see them all come together as one and look at the over all big picture!! They remind me of dog marking off their territories and only thinking of their piece of pie. This is why it won't work and having their people in place is another disaster due to they select whom they will work for and not all citizens of this community are represented. But again these folks think they can speak for the public without even letting the public know they are doing so?? Not elected either by the community on the hole but just a hand ful of folks with personal agendas?? Just small town thinkers???

[Waterbuffalo]

Karma, I think Chief has been trying to make the same point your making with a head beat to a pain of glass since he started Clarkblog and the NA and the small town thinking. Vancouver is growing and the NA's are going to get bigger..

Sorry to the people who think we should save Vancouver's UGA but I think that is now a lost cause. But if they find a way to save it, more power to them.

Now back to regularly schedule Patella meetings..