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Chief
12-28-2006, 07:16 AM
It has been apparent for some time that the City of Vancouver is on a constant prowl for new and creative ways that they can raise funds for different projects. My observations have led me to conclude that there are two, and only two basic criteria that any new tax proposals have to meet, in order to satisfy Hizzonor the Mayor and Crew:

1. The Voters cannot be asked to approve it because they will just say "NO"

2. The City cannot ask the Clark County Commissioners for it because they all hate one another and cannot even agree on where to have lunch.

So the solution comes down to what taxes City Council can simply impose by Ordinance. It's tough to come up with new tax strategeries, because you can never be sure what will fly and what won't.

In another thread, I raised the possiblility of a $100 City License on every single housepet in the city limits. Think how many cats, dogs, ferrets, parrots, hamsters, gerbils, lizards, and other assorted rodents that City Council could declare need a license, and you can see we are talking about some serious geech....

I thought about it and did some research, and here are some other tried and true taxes that were very successful in days gone by, and I think they deserve re-examination by our City Fathers (and Mothers...).

URINE TAX: Imposed by the Roman Emeror Nero, around A.D. 60. Why? The contents of public toilets were collected by tanners and laundry workers for the ammonia, which was used for curing leather and bleaching togas. Nero slapped a fee on the collectors (not the producers) and it was such a money raiser that Nero's successor, Vespasian, continued the tax. When his son, Titus, complained about the gross nature of the tax, Vespasian is reputed to have held up a gold coin and said, " Non olet" ("This doesn't stink").

What a concept! I think that all "Rolls" Royce needs to do on this is first pass a proclamation requiring Togas at City Council Meetings, and then impose the tax on the Producers AND the Collectors. Look how fashionable Hizzonor looks in a Toga, and you'll agree that this tax is an instant winner...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/SeniorChieftain/nero_pollard.jpg

BACHELOR TAX: A favorite of governments to encourage population growth, and raise money at the same time. Julius Caesar tried it in 18 B.C. The English imposed it in 1695. The Russians under Peter the Great used it in 1702, as did the Missouri Legislature in 1820. The Spartans of ancient Greece didn't care about the money, they preferred public humiliation. Bachelors in Sparta were required to march around the public market in wintertime stark naked, while singing a song making fun of their unmarried status.

What an excellent idea! Maybe Emperor Pollard can get these bachelors two ways: first pass an Ordinance requiring all Bachelors in Vancouver to buy one of those proposed condos on the Boise Cascade Property, then tax the hell out of them until they either marry some nice liberal girl, or the Domestic Life Partner of their choice...

And we could use Esther Short Park for those naked wintertime marches!!!

SOUL TAX: Peter the Great, czar of Russia, imposed a tax on souls in 1718...meaning eveybody had to pay it. Peter was antireligious (he was an avid fan of Voltaire and other secular humanist philosophers), but agreeing with him didn't excuse anyone from paying the tax - if you didn't believe humans had a soul, you still had to pay a "religious dissenters" tax. Peter also taxed beards, beehives, horse collars, hats, boots, basements, chimneys, food, clothing, all males, as well as birth, marriage, and even burial.

Boy! Talk about a smorgasbord of Taxes you can fall in love with! This is probably the best idea of them all, since your average Uber Liberal Squishy Far Left DemocRat is at least half Communist anyway, there is a lot for them to be comfy with about snuggling up to Russian ideas....not that Peter was a Commie, but he was Imperial and his ideas about taxation sound a lot like todays DemocRats...

Wait until Royce the Great, Czar of Vancouver, finds out about this list!! We could be talking the magic check book that could potentially pay for the Royce Pollard Memorial Trimet Station in Downtown Vancouver after all...and no anoying "Naysayers" or "Boo Birds" to contend with either!

Stout Hearts...

Chief

Chief
12-28-2006, 08:18 AM
Just to be clear: my proposed "Bachelor Tax" would only apply to Male bachelors, because of course a lot of Female Bachelors already belong to a protected group we normally refer to as "Single Mothers", and we cannot "single" them out in any way for a special tax...

Just sayin'...

sensibilist
12-28-2006, 10:40 AM
:D Think it would brighten up his New Year!

Chief
12-28-2006, 11:00 AM
Trust me. With as many hits as I get from the City's Server, I'll bet you a burger that he's seen it already....

;D

Chief
01-08-2007, 04:44 PM
And again, I must add a caveat. A certain segment of Male Bachelors turns out to also be in a protected group, also known as "The Homeless". We cannot tax too many of these guys, especially not the ones who are living in Ester Short Commons with a view of the Park, at fifty bucks a month...

And my friends from the Shumway Neighborhood Association tell me that the drunken naked marches are already a reagular feature of life in Downtown America's Vancouver...

That's OK! We can tax the homeowners in East Vancouver to make up the difference! And if they bitch, the Mayor can send them one of these postcards...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/SeniorChieftain/quiet.jpg

Stout Hearts!!

Chief

karma
01-08-2007, 07:55 PM
Oh Chief, The Mayor already told some folks to move if they didn't like what he was doing! :o

Waterbuffalo
08-06-2007, 06:05 PM
have you not heard the story of his famour former friend that threw old I-5 toll tokens at him?

Guess I am going to have to count 2 more years until the next mayor is voted in. Do not expect him to run again, his grandkids need him more!

Chief
08-07-2007, 05:51 AM
I have no doubt that "Rolls" Royce will run, and likely win reelection as Mayor, soundly.

karma
08-07-2007, 09:21 AM
I have to agree with an Chief, the only way he will leave is if it's in a box. He loves being Mayor!! Just wish he would stop selling out the city for his gains.

Waterbuffalo
08-09-2007, 05:35 AM
Anything is possible.

My suspicion is Tim working on collecting enough votes and rounding up supporters for the next mayors run. Dan has said he wants to run next term.

So I think that Pollard does he the "deer in the headlights" moment and feels like its probably time to move on.

But I may be wrong on all of the above accounts.

To chief: Any more bright ideas on new taxes schemes?

Thought you might want to suggest to our glorious master-as-mayor you have an attumn need for bag removal fo yard waste and would he love a photo op for composting?

Waterbuffalo
09-10-2007, 01:55 AM
How about a virtual tow away and sticket zone off McGillivray and 112th Avenue, maybe add the Sherriff to the highway 99 into the act..

State Patrol might like to be hitting speeders on Highway 503 as people race home to their Battle Ground shacks and slave to watch another night of drawl on television.

Waterbuffalo
09-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Got a new one here: How about $.01 per mile of bike riding by the mayor and the council?

Chief
09-11-2007, 02:15 PM
Still ain't enough. We need to figgure out how much a Bike and Pedestiran bridge for the Columbia Crossing is going to cost, and divide that by the number of bikes that cross the bridges now......OOOPS! That would be near ZERO, now wouldn't it??!!

What to do!!

And when was the last time you saw anyone on City Council anywhere near a bicycly, other than the Mayor??

I know of at least 2 of them who would be a serious hazard to themselves and others if they even tried to ride a bike...

I was thinking about proposing a Doggie Doo Tax down there in Ester Short Park...charge 'em by the inch...

;D

Waterbuffalo
09-11-2007, 07:22 PM
[quoie]
Still ain't enough. We need to figgure out how much a Bike and Pedestiran bridge for the Columbia Crossing is going to cost, and divide that by the number of bikes that cross the bridges now......OOOPS! That would be near ZERO, now wouldn't it??!!

What to do!![/quote]

Confluence or effluence project? or is it some other bike/ped thing? Got me confused on this one Chief.

And when was the last time you saw anyone on City Council anywhere near a bicycly, other than the Mayor??

Larry was caught riding with the mayor on that last migration to one of the Downtown Fiestas? What was that bike ride called? Darn can't remember it.



I was thinking about proposing a Doggie Doo Tax down there in Ester Short Park...charge 'em by the inch...

;D


Are you going to hand out the local rag and tag as absorbant padding my the foot? That might make a good covering for them to clean up the messes their animals make. Did you have a chance to run across a nice "candied log jam" down there?

Waterbuffalo
09-18-2007, 07:48 PM
Any new ideas? <evil grin..> Too many ideas swimming in the upper fishbowl..

Waterbuffalo
01-07-2008, 07:28 PM
<bumps..> Should we get this going?

Waterbuffalo
01-17-2008, 05:49 AM
<bumps..>

So now I'm wondering about this subject: and thinking, what are the creative ways to finance the CRCP?

Any funny, weird or exceptional ideas that aren't steeped into political mine field territory?

How about Bob Miller run his band over the bridge for an annual Bridge-to-nowhere campaign? I remember when he got the the American All star band, lawn chair brigade and many other wonderful ideas going in Portland and Vancouver. (I don't think they are all *HIS* ideas..)

But what wonderful, creative, weird or exceptional, even HIGH fallutin ideas can we can up with that near the upsurd?

Let's make the ideas not political, I want to have some fun with it... 8-D

Chief
01-17-2008, 02:42 PM
I still think the $100 per pet tag fee in the City of Vancouver is a vast, untapped source of big geech...

:D

Waterbuffalo
01-17-2008, 08:41 PM
Now Chief.. That's tooo apolitical.. I meant by my bump to be "creative?"


Example: How about "$10 per flagging down of City Staff and councilors to reminisce about the 'ole times?" Royce and Pat could make a KILLING for charity with this one!

This is supposed to be a "Creative" vehicle, NOT a political discussion? I'll save my political commentary for the rest of the forums and threads..