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Chief
08-30-2007, 07:42 AM
JEFFREY MIZE, columbian staff writer
April 13, 2001; Page A1

Citizens for Common Sense, a group that came forward early this year to oppose the special events center, has had a high-level, behind-the-scenes backer: none other than Councilwoman Jeanne Lipton. Lipton formed the organization as a nonprofit corporation in May 1997 more than two years before she won a seat on the Vancouver City Council.

Mayor Royce Pollard learned of her position with the group Thursday.

Councilman Jim Moeller said he learned of it last week.

"I would say this certainly shows a complete conflict of interest in my opinion regarding this entire special events center proposal," Moeller said. "I think it shows that she has clearly made up her mind before all the facts are in and is actively pursuing its failure."

Lipton said she has not publicly disclosed her position with Citizens for Common Sense because "nobody asked."

Citizens for Common Sense emerged earlier this year as vocal opponents to the $59.1 million project.

State records list Lipton as the corporation's registered agent and vice president.

Its address is the same as Lipton's home address.

Moeller said he believes Lipton should step down from future discussions and votes on the project.

"It looks very improper," he said. "In my opinion, she has been essentially orchestrating the entire anti-special events center organization ... from the very beginning. I question her ethics."

Won't abstain

Lipton, however, said she has no intention of abstaining from future votes.

Moeller, she said, should recuse himself from discussions and decisions regarding the proposed human rights commission.

"He has been orchestrating proponents to come into city hall and talk about the human rights commission, and I don't see the difference between the two," she said.

"Maybe I shouldn't put out a silly axiom, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander."

While Lipton's position with the group might not be common knowledge, it hardly can be characterized as clandestine.

Not only does Lipton's name appear on several state documents, but Citizens for Common Sense is listed as publisher of booklets she helped write on light-rail transit in 1996 and on C-Tran in 1999.

"It should have been knowledge that I am affiliated with Citizens for Common Sense," Lipton said. "Over 400 books have been published and have been spread about town."

Pollard said Lipton's position is "not a big deal to me," but he was surprised she is listed as the corporation's agent.

"I guess I would have to ask the city attorney is she should rethink it," Pollard said.

City Attorney Ted Gathe said Lipton's involvement would not constitute a conflict of interest unless she has a direct or indirect financial interest in the issue.

Washington law specifically allows nonprofit corporations to be set up for any lawful purpose, including political activities.

A cursory review of Public Disclosure Commission records indicated that Lipton listed her affiliation with Citizens for Common Sense on financial affairs statements she must file with the state.

InterACT forum

Lipton's position with the group goes a long way toward explaining why Larry Patella and Ralph Peabody, two outspoken critics of the events center, no longer speak as representatives of Citizens for Common Sense.

Their refusal to appear under the group's banner was one of the reasons InterACT cited when it abruptly canceled a public forum scheduled Wednesday night.

Lipton said she told the two men they could not use the group's name in the forum and during an ongoing petition campaign to try to force a vote on the project.

"They were now moving into the referendum stage, and I thought that might be interpreted as being a PAC (political action committee)," she said.

"I look at Citizens for Common Sense more as an education group, and I wanted to keep that status."

Lipton often has been at odds with the rest of the council during her first 15 months in office and has accused the city of not following rules and procedures on the events center project. Her position with Citizens for Common Sense could place additional pressure on already rocky relations with the other six council members.

When asked about that likelihood, Moeller replied: "What relations?"

Pollard: No friction

Pollard isn't so sure Lipton's involvement will increase friction.

"It doesn't strain my relations," he said. "I try to maintain a professional relationship with Ms. Lipton, and I would expect her to do the same."

Lipton said she and other council members have "very diverse opinions" on a number of issues.

"I'm satisfied with what I have done," she said. "I am a community activist, and I will continue to educate the public."

Chief
05-20-2008, 08:12 AM
Bumping to the top....this is from the last time we had a problem here in The 'Couv with Larry Patella and a City Council Critter named Jeanne.

Deja Vu Jeanne??

cewl

Waterbuffalo
05-20-2008, 04:36 PM
Chief: I don't understand your point on this? And why your asking these types of questions about Jeanne Stewart?

Are you privy to some sort of Data stream that none of us are?

Chief
05-20-2008, 05:21 PM
yah WB...every time he pulls one of these stunts, I get inundated with e-mails rebutting him, since he is so selective about which responses he will put up.

The other side needs to come out somehow, and Clarkblog is the conduit for that...

Waterbuffalo
05-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Time to start an email template on your email address?

Any time you get this flood, you just attach it to your email address that says.. "You have been selected to recieve this email because it was determined that you may have valid points on a subject facing or is on Clarkblog.

Please sign up at www.clarkblog.org and post this commentary instead of sending it via Email to this address.

Warmest Regards, Chief..

Now if you had a template like this that you could just select via Outlook or what ever email program you using, enter an email address and click send? :-0

I'll let you do think about the rest.

Now you could do this with a lot of other functions of Clarkblog but this is way off this thread... But I think you get the idea and my point.

Any time you get a flood or inundated, copy the email address, go to the templates folder and paste in To: and click send?

Chief
05-21-2008, 05:18 AM
That's not a bad idea...for some of these sources. Some of the messages I get like this are welcome if they come from the proper source...

Waterbuffalo
05-21-2008, 06:38 AM
If you create the proper template, all of your new signups could get the same message. All the message you think should be posted to Clarkblog, will have another, all email that need more information has another template but with additional commentary added personally.

Templates are a standard in web design and in email applications. They save time and energy and one does not have to write the same subject over and over again.

If you get the same commentary from those certain people and it happens over and over, why not spend about 5 minutes, create a template email that you could stick in a special "templates" folder and just enter in the "To:" the proper email address and click send?

I bet if you spent that five minutes doing that to the "I want you to post my personal thoughts to this subject thread." That template message and a copy paste of the email address would take you about 15 seconds per message.

And any email that needs proper addressing you could handle on your own email answering and priority system.

Think about this: How much of Clarkblog is a template? And how much of that template is to save data throughtput, database output by its proper design? If you design things in a smart way, it can pay dividends in the amount of time one has to spend online answer email or doing subjects here.

I'll leave to your imagination the possibilities.