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Chief
06-19-2007, 05:45 PM
This is a slide that was presented at the Public Session of the Special Meeting of the Commissioners of the Port of Vancouver this morning. This is Gramor Development's preliminary street design for the site, and shows a number of interesting features. Here 'tis...

Preliminary Street Design, Bosie Cascade Site Development (http://www.clarkblog.org/PORT/Exhibit C.pdf?s=&showtopic=4351&view=findpost&p=28980)

Please take particular notice of the new underpasses that cut under and through the Railroad Berm at Grant Street, Esther Street, and Columbia Street.

Exhibit "B" is another plan overview of thw site, and should give you an idea of the scope of the development planned for that area.

Exhibit "B" (http://www.clarkblog.org/PORT/Exhibit B.pdf?s=&showtopic=4351&view=findpost&p=28980)

Chief
06-19-2007, 05:59 PM
So, with those photographs in hand, the issue now is, who pays for all of this??

The Columbian has consistently reported that this is going to be a split between Gramor Development, the City of Vancouver, the Port of Vancouver, and the BNSF Railroad.

Here is a Hot News Flash: the Railroad isn't going to pay for a dime of this. their only interest is in preventing the City's plans with interferiing in any way with railroad operations. Period.

The Port of Vancouver has better things to do than dabble in this Development. I would much rather see them focused on the new rail line into the Port, and the ongoing Columbia Gateway Project. I do not want to see the Port of vancouver sold a bill of goods, and allow themselves to get rushed into agreeing to something that will come back to haunt them five years from now.

Developing...

karma
06-19-2007, 09:05 PM
I don't see this working and it's just going to end up like North Portland. If you have to put in 3 overpasses, something is wrong?? I also see to much pavement and where is the bio ponds to clean up the stormwater? I see more problems and a serious on at the State level?

Chief
06-20-2007, 05:23 AM
Not overpasses, underpasses...they will have to dig a fairly deep trench under the Railroad berm in order to put in the traffic lanes. The tracks must remain undisturbed, and they cannot make a grade change to them.

I had not thought about stormwater either...

karma
06-20-2007, 09:54 AM
Underpasses, they surely will hit water by doing this in the lowlands!! Where are these folks' heads?? Oh one can't mess with Federal Transportation, is that what I have been saying all along??

Chief
09-11-2008, 11:11 AM
bumping up for review as well...

Waterbuffalo
09-11-2008, 01:15 PM
Pulling down PDFs for further review of subject and thread that is eighteen months old.

On Edit: I just wanted to state that these PDF's look like maps of road and civil engineering of where Columbia Waterfront LLC wants to build there buildings. I do not think they do show the new moving of the BNSF rail lines to the north or WVFAP. But the maps give you a good general idea of the land that is going to be available.