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Chief
08-07-2008, 04:58 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-uscamp0808,0,5954707.story

BY TOM BRUNE AND JANIE LORBER | tom.brune@newsday.com
6:07 PM EDT, August 7, 2008

WASHINGTON - Egged on by die-hard supporters, Hillary Rodham Clinton is giving every indication that she will not go quietly or meekly into the Democratic National Convention in Denver later this month.

Even as she heads to Las Vegas Friday in her first solo trip to campaign for Obama, Clinton is holding out the prospect of a drawn-out nominating vote at the convention that experts say at best would be a distraction and at worst a disaster.

Though Barack Obama is to be formally nominated as the Democratic presidential candidate in just three weeks, Clinton Thursday refused to say whether she'll demand that roll-call vote to highlight the delegates she won in the hotly contested primaries earlier this year.

Some experts say Clinton's action might stem from lingering hard feelings from the primaries, but others say she's probably just pressing her case in negotiations with the Obama camp.

Obama Thursday acknowledged that a roll-call vote, with Clinton's name placed in nomination next to his, is still in play for the convention, which opens Monday.

The vote is to be held on Wednesday, the day before Obama is to deliver his acceptance speech at Invesco Field.

"As is true in all conventions, we're still working out the mechanics, the coordination," Obama said Thursday. Asked if he's amenable to a roll call vote, he said, "I didn't say that."

In a Web chat Thursday, Clinton pointedly evaded a question from a supporter about whether her name should be placed in nomination.

"I know that there have been a lot of questions on this subject," Clinton replied. But her answer was, in effect, that she and Obama are working on it.

"I want to assure everyone we are working together with Senator Obama's campaign and the DNC," she wrote, "and I am confident we will have a successful and unified convention in Denver."

That echoed a joint statement Obama and Clinton put out Wednesday night after a video showed Clinton hinting a roll call vote might be useful.

"We do not want any Democrat, either in the hall or in the stadium or at home, walking away saying, 'Well, you know, I'm just not satisfied, I'm not happy,'" she said on the tape.

But Obama said, "I don't think we're looking for catharsis. I think what we're looking for is energy and excitement."

Clinton suspended her campaign June 7 after winning 18 million votes but trailing by 129 pledged delegates.

Her husband, former President Bill Clinton, has given lukewarm support for Obama. Hillary backers are planning a march for her in Denver.

Hillary Clinton is expected to deliver the keynote address to the convention Tuesday.

"She's is definitely going to play a critical role in the convention," said Obama and convention aide Jenny Backus.

But the mood is reminiscent of 1980, when President Jimmy Carter and challenger Sen. Edward Kennedy ended a bitter primary fight with a convention roll-call vote, and Carter's loss in the election, experts say.

**SCHNIPP**

Gawd! Will this be fun to watch, or what??!!

mrgrn

dawgfan451
08-07-2008, 05:00 PM
Just as fun as when the local Ron Pauler's get to Minnesota.

Waterbuffalo
08-07-2008, 09:28 PM
"Gawd! Will this be fun to watch, or what??!!"

So when do we assume the Cinetopia party position? :-) The convention starts today? Which channels?

ppcrn

Chief
08-07-2008, 09:51 PM
"Gawd! Will this be fun to watch, or what??!!"

So when do we assume the Cinetopia party position? :-) The convention starts today? Which channels?

ppcrn

yah...I could see doing this on the big screen, with plenty of adult beverages at close hand...

mrgrn

Waterbuffalo
08-07-2008, 10:16 PM
I'm watching via CSPAN, the Democratic Party is showing a Platform committee via online version.

Just to save your brain cells, its 4 hours long and you have heard it before..

Chief
08-08-2008, 07:17 AM
I failed to mention it earlier this week, but the Denver City Council passed an Ordinance the other day making it illegal to carry containers of urine and/or feces in public.

It seems that the group "Recreate '68" was collecting those materials so they would have them handy to hurl at the Denver Police during the convention demonstrations they are sponsoring.

I am NOT making that up either. That should be some indication of the potential for unpleasantness at the Democrat Convention, and in Denver itself as the Messiah is annointed...

cewl

Waterbuffalo
08-08-2008, 08:41 AM
Oh well.. There are other things to worry about than some city emergency ordinance against a few radicals..

There is more interesting things to watch at the Convention than that..

Chief
08-08-2008, 10:02 AM
Oh well.. There are other things to worry about than some city emergency ordinance against a few radicals..

There is more interesting things to watch at the Convention than that..

Believe it or not, but ex-hippies and other anarchists are planning on massive demonstrations, and being as disruptive of the convention as they can be. This is far from a happy party that will simply hold hands and sing nice songs together...

dawgfan451
08-08-2008, 01:27 PM
What I am waiting for is Obamas big speech outside. Snow, rain, hail, or thunderstorms really heavy would be very entertaining. Image the messiah getting up to give his coronation speech and being forced to flee as lightning hits the stadium and golf ball size hail falls. Running and hiding on National television. While the camera have to cut because of the weather they show McCain. We see him with a sun beam falling on him and a rainbow in the background. That would be entertaining.

Waterbuffalo
08-08-2008, 02:25 PM
So whom are we referring to as "the messiah?" Cannot clear that one up in my head.

We'll see how Obama does and who wins the election, right now either side is just playing convention parlor tricks and I personally only watching it for a little bit of entertainment value that is left for me on television.

dawgfan451
08-08-2008, 05:22 PM
Rush's name for Obama

Waterbuffalo
08-08-2008, 06:03 PM
I see. Now I can pit the lipstick on the pig. Could not figure out the reference until you came right out.

Sorry have not listened to Rush in a long time.. Too much research on the bounty of the columbia river crossing I guess.

Chief
08-08-2008, 06:33 PM
WB...you have some serious catching up to do...I find it hard to believe you have never heard of the Obamessiah...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/SeniorChieftain/BLOG%20IMAGES/obamamessiah2.jpg

Believe...

::)

mooney
08-09-2008, 10:15 AM
Charles Krauthammer got in right and I am paraphrasing.

"You just got to love the Clintons. It is like the end of a really bad horror movie. Just when you think the villainess is dead and buried a hand reaches up out of the grave and scares hell out of everybody."

Right on Charles!

Waterbuffalo
08-09-2008, 05:16 PM
:-) Do not remember I hath travel far and wide but my political ignorance is now showing the past two months I have not been watching Rush & co. or the rest of the news media. Have had better things to do like focus on Southwest Washington needs than political anchors being pulled across the political seabed to see what is coming up from the bottom.

Guess I can just sit back and watch you all, have some chuckles as you keep the spins on... :laugh:

Chief
08-09-2008, 05:57 PM
You just have to wonder about how the Clinonistas feel these days, especially when Obama announced last week that John Edwards was under consideration for Attorney General in the first Obamunist Cabinet...John F-ing Kerry was being considered for Secretary of State, but there was no soup for Hillary...

That's why a floor vote will be fun to watch. Instead of simply crowning Obama, Hill would get her name put into nomination too, and there would have to be a good old fashioned floor-fight to see who actually won.

How do you suppose all of those Edwards DemocRats feel right about now?? Can you imagine how much money was raised and spent on the various Edwards campaigns over the years??

How many Edwards Dhimmies live right here in Clark County?? Think people like Jim Moeller and Deb Wallace are out quickly reviewing their past schedules to see if there is any evidence that they ever even mentioned his name??

Too much fun!!

mrgrn

And Mooney is right...these are the Clintons we're dealing with, so be prepared for just about anything from the Arkansas Mafia...