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Chief
07-15-2008, 06:32 AM
http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2008/07/07152008_Candidates-claims-called-inaccurate.cfm

Tuesday, July 15, 2008
By KATHIE DURBIN, Columbian staff writer

The chairwoman of the Clark County Democratic Central Committee is challenging the accuracy of statistics and biographical information put out by Joseph James, a Republican House candidate for the 17th Legislative District.

In a flyer laying out his campaign positions, James states: “Only 3 percent of us use mass transit, yet over 90 percent of transportation funds go toward mass transit. It’s obvious that the priorities be shifted to improving the many roads and highways that need to be upgraded and expanded. This is the quickest and least expensive way to achieve the traffic congestion relief we all seek.”

County Democratic Chairwoman Dena Horton said she was incredulous when she read those numbers. “Can you imagine what our transportation system would look like if over 90 percent of the funds were put into mass transit?” she asked. “Where did he get those figures? The literature piece does not quote a report or study to show from where these numbers are derived. … Not only is it factually inaccurate, it only seems to perpetuate a climate of anger around transportation issues when there are many stakeholders involved in trying to constructively work toward solutions.”

James didn’t have a ready answer.

“My consultant, Doug Simpson, is the one that helped me write that,” he said Monday. “I just took his word for it. He’s an expert, the consultant for (state Sen.) Don Benton as well. He’s been doing it for about 20 years and I assumed he was on top of it. “

Simpson said the 90 percent figure was in error but that he “was willing to wager” that more than 50 percent of state and local transportation dollars in Clark County went to support mass transit.

“I’m not sure what it is down there,” he added.

Horton also pointed out that the “businessman of the year” award James touts in his campaign biography is an award conferred by the National Republican Congressional Committee for campaign contributions.

According to an ABC News investigation, the committee has given such “awards” to at least 1,900 GOP donors. Political watchdogs have derided the “awards” as a telemarketing scam.

“I’ve donated money to them, definitely, and I received the award in the mail,” James said. “I don’t believe it was an exchange. I donated the money and they sent the award.”

James, who owns a dog boarding business, said he donated $2,500 in 2006, the year he was named by the campaign committee as one of Washington’s “businessmen of the year.”

James is in a three-way race with incumbent state Rep. Jim Dunn, a Republican, and Democrat Tim Probst, chief executive officer of the Washington Workforce Association, a nonprofit organization that works to promote job creation, economic growth and high school dropout prevention.

Chief
07-15-2008, 06:38 AM
I know the James Campaign is in here every day, and here is a little advice for them...

4. Evidence refutes liberalism.
(http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur52.htm?t=163?s=&showtopic=4351&view=findpost&p=28980)

In other words Joseph, get your act together, and make sure you know what facts and figures you are using before you go putting them out in print form for the Democrats and the columbian to pick apart.

Self-inflicted wound.

cewl

Waterbuffalo
07-15-2008, 04:11 PM
Because if you don't, the local Democratic party will hand that election to your opponent without "any" hard work.

I'm with you Chief, not doing one's homework is especially with the era of misleading online resources is just tantamount to giving an opponent a pass to win the election.

Hopefully he will learn his lesson right now.

And being in an election with Tim Probst who has money, connections and good backing, he'll eat you for lunch.

Chief
08-25-2008, 11:30 AM
bttt...

This is the story from July where James first got his numbers wrong...

In his defense, at least James attempted to take a position on this issue, which is more than we can say about Tim Probst. I've checked his website and Probst doesn't have a position about Transportation, Transit, Tolls, or anything else along those lines. What he does have are three hit pieces about local Republicans, courtesy of the local media and the Democrat Party.

cewl

josephjamescampaign
08-25-2008, 02:21 PM
My source is Bill Eager. He is highly respected in the state of Washington as a transportation expert. He has more knowledge about mass transit and statisistics on funding than any other expert I am aware of. I posted his statistics an the op/ed piece on the previous post... please give me credit for trying to get the numbers out into the public. Remember that there are two sides to every story and this issue with the Columbian would have been resolved if they would have printed the op/ed piece like they promised. Instead they allowed the Dem. Chair to use the Columbian as a platform to attack me. I have no problem with some forms of public and mass transit when it is necessary. I like c-tran and I know it is a vital part of our community. I have no problem with c-tan. I do have a problem with forcing residents of Clark County to fund part of light rail and pay tolls (which they cannot afford) when the majority of residents prefer the automobile as the primary form of transportation. The residents of Clark County also voted against light rail and I want their voice and opinion to taken into account. I am a fiscal conservative and will not support such a blatant disrespect for our hard earned tax dollars. We do not have a revenue problem in this state we have a spending problem and will never support reckless spending of any form.

Thank you, www.josephjamescampaign.com
Joseph James

Chief
08-25-2008, 04:00 PM
Here's the way I see this, Joseph...

As citizens, we all enjoy our Constitutional Rights, especially those of Free Speech. The political process we are in the midst of now is a massive exercise of that right.

Along with every Right comes a corresponding set of Responsibilities, and when one runs for public office under our system, some new Responsibilities come into play. In particular is a Responsibility to know what you are talking about when you address an issue that you are campaigning to take on even more Responsibility for.

Your campaign materials are your Responsibility, not the person's who prepared it for you. It's also not the fault of the columbian for printing a juicy story about you, even if the DemocRats are doing Probst's dirty deeds for him.

Are you really surprised that Kathy Durbin turned on you again??

Just sayin'...

cewl

josephjamescampaign
08-25-2008, 04:22 PM
You are right, it my job to make sure our numbers are accurate. What is your assesment of the numbers I used and my source?

Chief
08-25-2008, 06:20 PM
You are right, it my job to make sure our numbers are accurate. What is your assesment of the numbers I used and my source?

I'm not familiar with your source, and I rely locally on the Columbia Crossing Project Office, WSDOT, RTC and C-Tran for the real numbers. Statewide is a different story, and I've followed a number of sources on issues like the ongoing crisis in the ferry system around Puget Sound.

It depends upon the specific topic you are addressing, how you do it and what point you are trying to make.

Waterbuffalo
08-26-2008, 06:34 AM
Gosh Chief, you continue to amaze me and I'll give a two thumbs up on what you have said about running for office.

I'll also second thin, that when you run for office, all materials printed from one's campaign can AND Will be used against the campaigner.

Joseph, hopefully you have learned this sad fact.

Chief and I have our own personal issues with the local news media but you have to look and work above all of that. You do have a right to put out numbers you think are correct but please do remember, you will be called to the carpet even every single word and statement.

Even to the point, the other side's caucus may come at you with every political shenanigan with a smile.

Now I have a different view coming from Bellingham and Clark County, so I have lived in two different "liberal" onions of the state. Where a core group of state districts are in an urban core and the outer parts are a more conservative, libertarian style.

Now I would suggest as Chief did, check with Federal Highway and Transit administrations, WashDOT and others. RTC and C-tran both have Email mailing lists you can get on if you call them and ask to be added. Along with any added materials they may have. Plus RTC has a nice website with minutes and other appropriate leaflet material.

Get ready to be doing a lot of reading... :-)

ceiliazul
08-26-2008, 07:23 AM
I've had a heck of a time getting anyone at C-tran to call me back, but then my name isn't posted all over east vancouver. :-)

Joseph, it is definately hard to find good info. Just making the attempt sets you apart from most in the local gov. Don't give up. Maybe clarkblog can help critique your next mailing before it gets mailed? You def don't want this to happen a third time :-)

-john

Waterbuffalo
08-26-2008, 07:47 AM
:-) Oh? ME! Critiquing Joseph's next campaign mailer?<ahem with solemn vow..>

I'll help if I can. Guess there is enough back ache and pain from the 1,000 cuts and pastes in the Clarkblog crack research team to help out. Now getting C-tran Board information is hard? I doubt some people have tried recently, because I have found it quite easy.

Joseph, just show up or call, I doubt they're going to give you the run-a-round.. Or I could be mistaken on that one too.. Just try contacting them via email or phone.

Chief
08-27-2008, 06:55 AM
From a letter to the editor in this morning's paper.

Point tripped up by typo

In the July 17 editorial, “Campaign alert,” it was stated that candidate Joseph James’ consultant “conceded the 90 percent figure came out of thin air and that he didn’t know how much of the state’s transportation dollar goes for mass transit as opposed to highways, ferries, etc.”

Allow me to set the record straight. I am that consultant, and I did not say or imply that, and I feel that reporter Kathie Durbin’s agenda in the July 15 story, “Candidate’s claims called ‘inaccurate’,” was less than unbiased or professional.

News organizations know it’s impossible to avoid every typo, even after proofing. As James’ consultant, I let him down because of my own typo. My apology goes to him and to the public. It is disheartening for any candidate when errors are knowingly used against them for political gain.

The point was that a disproportionate share of transportation dollars goes to transit, which moves an extremely small share of daily trips.

Doug Simpson
Spokane