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Chief
05-22-2008, 02:08 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/commentary/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1210960504229760.xml&coll=7

Sunday, May 18, 2008
ROBERT LIBERTY

This spring and summer the Portland City Council and Metro Council will vote on recommendations from the Columbia River Crossing Task Force. The task force has been studying how to address rush-hour congestion caused by commuting on Interstate 5 between Portland and Vancouver.

Most task force members have indicated they prefer demolishing the two existing I-5 bridges, which are structurally sound. The six lanes on those two bridges would be replaced with a new 12-lane freeway toll bridge coupled with an extension of light rail from Portland to downtown Vancouver.

Many serious questions remain to be answered about the proposal:

Does building a 12-lane bridge just move the traffic jam south to the Rose Quarter's four lanes?

How can widening I-5 to handle 40,000 more car trips a day be consistent with a new Oregon law that calls for a 10 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020?

Are the study's methods and assumptions appropriate?

But taxpayers need answers to a different set of questions about the task force. At an estimated cost of $3.1 billion to $4.2 billion, the project is easily the most expensive transportation investment ever proposed for our region.

Oregon taxpayers will be startled to learn that elected officials are being pressed to endorse the $3 billion to $4 billion Columbia River Crossing before there is any agreement about how it will be financed and who will pay for it.

The idea that our federal gas taxes will pay for all, or even most, of the new bridge is unrealistic. At best, those taxes might fund one-third of the total project cost.

Another third of the cost would come from charging tolls of $2.50 to $3 each way to bridge users, tolls that will also help reduce traffic volumes. (Should we spend billions to widen I-5 and then impose bridge tolls to discourage people from using it?)

That leaves about $1.2 billion to be paid by Oregon and Washington taxpayers. How should we allocate these costs between the two states and two parts of the region?

Oregon officials apparently assume that Oregonians should pay one-half of the cost not covered by tolls or federal gas taxes, about $600 million. However, Clark County commuters are the primary cause of the congestion and the primary beneficiaries of the project.

A regional gas-tax increase of about 7.5 cents a gallon, imposed in Clackamas, Washington and Multnomah counties, dedicated solely to the Columbia River Crossing for 20 years, would generate $600 million. A 2-cent statewide tax, imposed for 10 years, also could generate enough money -- but should residents of Bend, Eugene, Coos Bay, Ontario and Klamath Falls subsidize Clark County commuters?

Should Oregonians spend $600 million on the project when we don't have enough money to fix the three bridges over the Willamette River that are older than the I-5 bridge, to fix the Sellwood Bridge or to repair and maintain our existing roads?

Late last year the Metro Council officially concluded that even if the Oregon state gas tax were increased by 1 cent every year for the near future, and even if the vehicle registration fee were increased by $15 every eight years, the region still faced a $7 billion shortfall for various proposed transportation projects in the region -- not counting the Columbia River Crossing.

Should the crossing be our region's top transportation priority, especially if other projects might do a better job, dollar for dollar, in reducing congestion, moving freight or focusing jobs and housing in places where we want growth? Shouldn't we be comparing the freeway bridge's costs and benefits with other projects before we commit to building it?

Before agreeing to spend as much as $4 billion on the bridge and sacrifice other projects and opportunities, elected officials need to explore some cheaper alternatives. We could impose more modest tolls on the I-5 bridges now (reducing congestion immediately) and use the revenues to make the bridges stronger and rebuild ramps that delay trucks and contribute to accidents and congestion.

The next step would be to build a two-lane bridge from Hayden Island to Portland for cars and light trucks, so that residents don't have to use I-5 during rush hour. The also bridge could carry light rail to Jantzen Beach, where buses from Vancouver could provide connections.

Building another bridge across the Columbia and extending light rail could be carried out later as needed.

That's just one approach; others probably are worth considering.

This election year voters should pay close attention to see whether their elected officials ask the tough questions and explore all of the alternatives to ensure that their taxes are prudently invested in addressing the region's most important transportation needs.

Robert Liberty is a member of the Metro Council, representing portions of Northeast, Southeast and Southwest Portland.

Chief
05-22-2008, 07:20 PM
Just sent...

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Koski
To: letters@news.oregonian.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Response to Robert Liberty


The following letter is submitted in rebuttal to Mr. Liberty's Commentary in Sunday, May 18th Oregonian, entitled " The $4 Billion Columbia River Crossing"


Dear Editor;

It’s easy for Robert Liberty to blame Clark County residents for the ills of the Columbia Crossing, and dismissing any financial participation by Oregon residents for the badly needed cure, rather than take responsibility as a sitting member of Metro for supporting a solution that might be mutually beneficial to us all.

At least Mr. Liberty acknowledges the $145 Million of income taxes that Clark County residents pay the State of Oregon, but what he fails to mention are the Millions that the employers of those people pay directly to Trimet on their wages as well.

Trying to lay the expense of the Columbia River Crossing Project on Clark County residents who have no voice on Metro is politically expedient for Mr. Liberty and will garner him many votes on his side of the river, but his words will only steel the resolve of Clark County voters who will never approve anything other than “No Build” on the Columbia Crossing.

Bob Koski
www.clarkblog.org

Waterbuffalo
05-22-2008, 07:25 PM
We're Clark County commuters? ahem Robert, I doubt you can acknowledge how much our residences keeps your economy afloat and pay the taxes to keep your ass in power?

I have such a long and detracting commentary reaction to Ron Liberty's ignorance

I'm going to read Chief's post that I just missed and may be comment later.

adding: what he fails to realize is that a lot of his former neighbors and friends are moving here to Clark County to avoid dealing with this commentary..

Waterbuffalo
05-22-2008, 07:28 PM
"Trying to lay the expense of the Columbia River Crossing Project on Clark County residents who have no voice on Metro is politically expedient for Mr. Liberty and will garner him many votes on his side of the river, but his words will only steel the resolve of Clark County voters who will never approve anything other than “No Build” on the Columbia Crossing."

I think I'll borrow Chief's comment to Mr. Liberty as my own and save my brain for other things.

Chief
05-23-2008, 08:07 AM
As usual, once I've said it, there is little left to be said by anyone else...

mrgrn

Waterbuffalo
05-23-2008, 09:25 PM
I'll take and accept your commentary..

Though I was listening to KPAM this morning and it seems that Portland Tribune will be running a piece on the CRC. Hopefully, it won't be near this level of "fact checking..."

Chief
05-24-2008, 04:49 AM
Let's see what the Trib comes up with .

I've discussed Liberty's comments privately with a couple of CRC Task Force members, and they afe none too pleased with what he had to say. His remarks were ill-informed at best, and downright malicious at worst. He did a lot of damage with that Commentary piece and alienated a lot of people who matter on this.

This is just further evidence that the whole mess is slowly crumbling before our eyes.

Waterbuffalo
05-24-2008, 07:49 AM
With JIll Fuglister's group threatening to sue CRC over the 60 day period, I expect this might start sinking even more.

Chief
05-27-2008, 08:07 AM
bumping...

The Oregonian published an edited version of my letter today...

;)

Waterbuffalo
05-28-2008, 04:06 AM
Nice.. Got to see your along with some others.. Hopefully the ring will be LOUD on a certain rent-a-phone over at Metro.

Chief
06-01-2008, 06:48 AM
Updating....

The Oregonian printed a series of letters this morning that also rebut Liberty and Metro's recent rumblings about the CRCP. These are most worthy of mentioning here...

http://www.oregonlive.com/letters/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1212114330258500.xml&coll=7

Sunday, June 01, 2008

Troubled waters for Columbia crossing

I applaud the three Metro councilors who oppose building a new bridge over the Columbia River ("3 suggest toll rather than new I-5 bridge," May 27).

The majority of drivers crossing the Columbia on Interstate 5 are commuters who live across the river to avoid the state income tax and land-use planning. I have nothing against Clark County or the state of Washington, but a new bridge would subsidize this kind of behavior.

Public policy and infrastructure need to encourage people to live near where they work. A toll on the Interstate Bridge is a step in the right direction.

GERSON ROBBOY Northeast Portland



While considerable attention is given to anti-car, anti-congestion, anti-Washingtonian, environmental considerations, I am surprised how little consideration is given to Washington commuters and the benefits they provide to Portland, the metropolitan area and Oregon.

Washingtonians working in and commuting to Oregon contribute considerable direct and indirect benefits to the local economy, quality of life and ability of government to spend. They are employers and employees; they spend money on this side of the river; they pay taxes and they get virtually nothing in return.

I would imagine if as few as 25 percent of those people and their dollars left for the Vancouver side, the economic impact to Portland, the metro area and the state would be devastating.

How much abuse do you expect these people to take before the cost of relocating exceeds the cost of the commute?

Also realize that making it more difficult to cross I-5 may divert more traffic to Interstate 205, and that will make for an even greater negative impact.

It seems to me that we owe them some direct benefit for their taxes paid. Consider financial incentives (for carpooling with four or more people, express buses, express light rail) in the mix of solutions.

BRAD LEVY Gresham



Three Metro councilors have proposed that Interstate 5 travelers pay a toll to cross the existing, paid-for Interstate Bridge between Vancouver and Portland.

The Interstate Bridge isn't the Oregon Zoo -- people can't simply "choose" to cross in the same sense that one can say "The Oregon Zoo is too expensive, so I just won't visit it."

To prove the point, I would suggest that the Metro councilors place a "toll" on any person (especially Metro employees and the councilors themselves) wishing to access the Metro Regional Center or any other Metro-owned facility.

Then, the Metro Council should report back as to how many Metro employees quit their jobs because they have "chosen" not to take the daily required trip to their workplace, or were fired for not showing up to work because of transportation issues.

It's easy to force one's choice on others while not accepting the challenge themselves.

ERIK HALSTEAD Southwest Portland



Metro Councilors Robert Liberty, Carlotta Collette and Carl Hosticka should be commended for thinking beyond the "larger Interstate 5 bridge is better" paradigm. If we really want to get serious about addressing global warming, we need to encourage less vehicle travel, not more.

By proposing to charge tolls on the existing bridge and using the funds for earthquake improvements, safer on-ramps and greater mass transit, the councilors are building a more sustainable bridge to the future.

MARK RALSTON Southwest Portland



To delay the construction of the solution for the Columbia River Crossing is to increase the cost of that solution exponentially. This issue has been talked about and studied enough. How many more decades does anyone think it will take to arrive at the conclusion that it needs to be fixed?

Most citizens realize that already. The Metro councilors who want to wait and do more studies are simply sidestepping their elected duties to wrench out the truth. This needs to be done now.

To the elected officials of all the involved agencies, for the sake of the citizens of the West Coast, please take your responsibility to fulfill our infrastructure needs to heart.

NOLAN CHARD Milwaukie



More than a decade ago, I decided to escape Portland, my hometown, and its inexorable progression toward auto-hating, overpopulated urban density, removal of key arterial streets and grossly overinflated property values and taxes promulgated by Vera Katz and her ilk.

I found to my great pleasure that Southwest Washington still holds dear the values of suburban life, with ample greenspaces and large lots in which children can play.

Now I learn, with no surprise but great dismay, that certain Metro officials want to put the brakes on the much-needed new Interstate 5 bridge.

A letter to the editor (May 27) hit the real issue -- Metro Councilor Robert Liberty is garnering votes on "his side of the river." (mrgrn)Another letter correctly emphasized that this is an "interstate" bridge, part of an interstate freeway system -- not the pawn of the city of Portland, Metro or any other local entity.

Frankly, I don't care if Portland builds a wall around itself and bans cars altogether, but let's call this Metro posturing what it is -- a feeble, chauvinistic attempt of a few elected officials to aggrandize their power and influence at the cost of the greater good.

ROGER VAN HOY Washougal, Wash.

Waterbuffalo
06-01-2008, 12:44 PM
Does someone need to remind these three people that this bridge does NOT represent them but the merging of three different regions, Chehalis, Northern Willamette Columbia River Gorge and Washington County-Clatskanie area along with National implications of people traveling California to Vancouver BC through to another destination?

If Robert Liberty and the three other Metro commissioners think that this bridge just "serves" one constituency of the metro urban commuter, they have to be sadly mistaken.

There are some people that have to travel by car to work as CEO's, secretaries, janitors, truck drivers moving frieght, sand and gravel, oil/fuel and many others?

Global Warming is an issue. To but aim it solely on one commuter group and aim their discussion on failed policies of Clark County development to take down a project. Do they realize that the a lot of the people who moved here are from Portland themselves and METRO is the one responsible over the years responsible along with a few other agencies for pushing people north?

Does the Portland Media also understand that since mid-1990's Clark County. Every city and county in the state has some form of Urban growth boundary or ring around it for future planning needs. Heck, Marc Bolt and Betty Sue Morris two of our County Commissioners were in the Washington State Legislature during this time promoting this??

Does Metro even understand that Clark County is in several lawsuits over its failed planning and pushing growth on to the North? Growth is going to go where the least resistance is.. Doubt Scapoose or Vernonia want urban planning or growth?

They cannot build East because of the Federal and State forests and monuments, Columbia River Gorge Scenic area on BOTH sides of the river.. The best example of the fight over urban growth is the towns want to grow their economic bases like Hood River, the Dalles and many others but guess what the overreaching factor created by Representatives and Senators or both Oregon and Washington?

Hillsboro, Beaverton and Forest Grove are growing at a fever pitch. Clackamas and Wilsonville and Woodburn are having growth spurts faster than Portland is. Only thing stopping these cities from Clackamas and Willamette River watersheds to their south.

So the only place left to grow is NORTH? Lewis and Cowlitz counties are still semi rural in nature along most of its areas except along the I-5 areas they serve. Only reason I do not think they will grow very fast is because of the Chehalis and Cowlitz River Floods that are similar in nature to the VanPort Floods. Remember a year ago when the Chehalis River took out more land VanPort did in 1948?

So Portland is pushing its development North, South and West of itself. Its one question I want those commissioners to understand, your forced to live with us BECAUSE of your policies of past and current administrations at multiple levels. Vancouver, Portland, Troutdale, Hillsboro, Forest Grove, Kalama (Have you HEART their Port commercials?) Wilsonville, Scapoose and Clackamas are the current areas people are moving to, not just the Heart of Portland.

Its short sighted to say that one county or community can control this whole region and hold it hostage over one issue that is whether we can build one form of transportation over another. By their actions right now and pushing light rail, its giving their opposition ammo to kill this project on both sides of the river...

<Waterbuffalo stops here as he hears the ramble and thought process starting to kick in that he's going to start doing a political speech. If the members of Both Portland and Vancouver citizen's care, please contact your federal delegation, local and regional politicians instead of getting my blood pumping.>

Chief
06-05-2008, 05:35 PM
Updating...

Maybe Pat Campbell ought to be asking Metro for apologies over things like this, instead of taking it upon himself to apologize for what the Mayor of Vancouver had to say.

Remember, Pat Campbell is supposed to be the cure for all of the ills at Vancouver City hall, including fits, farts and fleas...

Developing...

Waterbuffalo
06-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Darn.. I do not remember righting that long comment.

Must have been "politically inspired.." Thanks Chief for getting my blood pressure and voter apathy score high enough to warrant such electronic scribble.

Now off to find what's next...

Chief
06-06-2008, 05:31 AM
What's next is that Metro voted to endorse the Bridge with Loot Rail. No big surprise there, and there were only 2 dissenting votes....

So much for that. Maybe Pat's Campbell's groveling did some good after all..

::)

Waterbuffalo
06-06-2008, 09:44 AM
Now we have to get through the Task Force meetings, the end of the DEIS public comment period and a couple more public comment periods on other things.

I think I'll agree with you Chief.

We'll see what comes up next.