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Chief
02-29-2008, 11:48 AM
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/353195_taxes29.html

$2.4 billion state shortfall predicted

By CURT WOODWARD
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

OLYMPIA -- Washington's powerful House speaker has acknowledged the possibility of tax increases to balance next year's state budget, but adds that Democrats want to avoid such a step if possible.

Thursday's comments from Speaker Frank Chopp, D-Seattle, are the strongest signal yet that Democratic leaders think higher taxes could be needed to balance the 2009-11 budget, which will be written by next year's Legislature.

Chopp's statements also seemed to confirm months of Republican warnings about the need for tax increases or spending cuts to deal with a looming state deficit, recently pegged by nonpartisan Senate staff at nearly $2.4 billion in the next biennium.

Senate Democrats telegraphed the need for more taxes earlier this week, when they tucked a nearly $10 million liquor tax increase into the Senate's proposed state budget. If approved, the money would be split between substance abuse treatment and drunken driving enforcement programs.

That liquor tax increase may soon come up for a vote in the Senate, but it would need to get support from two-thirds of the Legislature to become law because of the recently passed tax limits in Initiative 960.

Asked Thursday about this year's proposed liquor tax and the prospect for further increases, Chopp declined to rule out higher taxes in 2009, saying he had to withhold judgment until the next budget cycle's economic picture becomes clear.

He then added, "We'd obviously rather not do that."

Chopp also said that recent state tax increases -- particularly the gas-tax increases dedicated to road and bridge construction -- have been a boon to the overall economy by firing up the construction industry.

"We have literally invested more than the vast majority of other states in these infrastructure projects, on a per capita basis," Chopp said. "And those investments have paid off for the economy."

For Senate GOP budget chief Joseph Zarelli, R-Ridgefield, the acknowledgment that taxes are in the mix for 2009's two-year budget sounded familiar.

Republicans have consistently sent that warning, saying the past four years' 33 percent increase in state spending can't be sustained in a slackening economy.

"There's two ways to get out of a deficit, and that's to cut spending or to raise taxes. We all know that," Zarelli said. "Our argument has been, let's not get to that decision."


SOS, DD...I woder what tax increases will be proposed, because you know they will not cut spending in Olympia, especially not with the Democrats in charge...

:mad:

Waterbuffalo
02-29-2008, 08:31 PM
Are you sure they won't get away with it for several more decades Chief?

Some thing the Republicans up in Olympia SHOULD DO target #1's seat for replacement when he comes up for re-election..

Chief
03-01-2008, 05:05 AM
Get away with what? What is this "it" of which you speak??

Waterbuffalo
03-01-2008, 05:52 PM
I'm speaking of ingoring 75 percent of greater of the state's needs that might be outside of the legislative districts that hug Puget Sound Region.

Get some one GOOD who could run against Chopp and get him out of the way?

I'm saying get more Effective leadership in Olympia for starters.

Chief
03-01-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm speaking of ingoring 75 percent of greater of the state's needs that might be outside of the legislative districts that hug Puget Sound Region.

Get some one GOOD who could run against Chopp and get him out of the way?

I'm saying get more Effective leadership in Olympia for starters.

Figure the odds of that happening. The Democrats are in firm control in Olympia, and I don't see many Republicans ( or others ) lining up to challenge them.

Waterbuffalo
03-01-2008, 10:16 PM
The republicans are working to line up people because WHY? Sounds like a lot of people in that caucus are sitting on their hands instead of trying to help build new leadership in the party.

I have seen Zarelli and Orcutt work the doors to bring new people into the party. Heck, I see two new Republicans, Jamie an appointed person and Joseph James is running for Dunn's seat.

So how do we get the Seattle Republicans to stand up like Rob McKenna and many others. (remember Rob was a King county council member BEFORE he became atg.)

So what is it going to take to get the push on? Chief your in that caucus.. What is it going to take to start building up the party and bring in fresh, faces... Even if their youngsters?

Chief
03-02-2008, 07:12 AM
Go take a look at Don Benton's OpEd in today's paper, and tell me if that's motivation enough for ya...

8)

Waterbuffalo
03-02-2008, 10:42 AM
You mean this one?

http://www.columbian.com/opinion/news/2008/03/03022008_Local-view-Third-river-crossing-is-best-solution.cfm

Honestly from what I read of it.. Sounds very similar to what has been said all ready.

Points out to Don Benton from here: If you need a tutorial of "WHY" this bridge is coming into existance, its NOT to serve Light Rail or Portland Natives. Its for freight mobility for ALL of the citizens in the US.

Please stop crowing all the BS and beating about around the old horse about Light Rail? Its soo 1990's election material fodder. Get over the fact its coming, now what we have to do is find ways were going to address the corridors and other problems that your 17th, 18, and 15th Districts have.

I want to ask Don, what is hey proposing to do After CRC? Since I've near seen him actually Attend a meeting of the CRCP, where is he getting his information. I'll give him some gratis if he sat down and watch one, four hour session of the Columbia River Crossing sessions on cvtv.

Is Don on the RTC board or reading the minutes of that? There is a project he could learn from and sink his teeth into. And it would benefit his constituents.

I swear between C-tran board, RTC, CRCP and a few others, I have about 1000 pages EASY to read each month. I don't think there is even an executive summary? :-)

So I want to hear what he has to say before I further comment. May be its time for other visit from a constituent? Honestly, email is a waste of time unless a legislator can meet some one face to face and have has discussion about a subject along with learning more about what is actually going on.