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Chief
02-16-2008, 05:41 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3382313.ece

Republicans are out to crush Barack by painting him as a leftwinger with dubious support

Sarah Baxter

LEADING Republicans believe they can trounce Barack Obama in the presidential election by tarring him as a shady Chicago socialist. They are increasingly confident that his campaign could collapse by the time their attack machine has finished with him.

Grover Norquist, an influential conservative tax reform lobbyist, said: “Barack Obama has been able to create his own image and introduce himself to voters, but the swing voters in a general election are not paying attention yet. He is open to being defined as a leftwing, corrupt Chicago politician.”

Norquist’s comments will be music to the ears of Hillary Clinton, Obama’s Democratic rival, who believes Obama has not been sufficiently “vetted” for the White House. She has been unable to attack him too vociferously without risking a backlash from Democratic primary voters, but Republicans may salvage her campaign by doing the job for her.

Obama has the voting record of a “hard-left” socialist, according to Norquist, from his time in the Illinois state legislature to the US Senate. He was recently judged by the nonpartisan National Journal to have the most liberal voting record in 2007 of any senator.

“It will be easy to portray him as even harder-left than Hillary,” said Norquist. “Hillary could lose the election, but Obama could collapse. People already know Hillary and she is not popular, but the disadvantage for Obama is that Republicans can teach people who don’t know him who he is.”

Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House and Republican guru, recently described Obama as the “most leftwing candidate to run since George McGovern” – a reference to the anti-Vietnam-war Democrat who lost 49 states out of 50 to Richard Nixon in the 1972 election. Norquist believes Obama’s questionable Chicago connections will stir things further.

The morning view from across the pond. The London Times is one hell of a lot more Conservative than anything you'll find to read locally...

:laugh:

Waterbuffalo
02-17-2008, 06:01 AM
Washington and Oregon Conservative? Darn, we need some bible belt tight fasteners from the south..

Chief
02-17-2008, 06:10 AM
There are plenty of Conservatives in both states WB, it's just that the Liberals in and around Portland and Seattle who manage to get the attention from their local media...

Waterbuffalo
02-17-2008, 06:44 AM
Yes, met some very fine ones Chief.. Problem is I also see a lot of more liberal minded ones though not rhino in a sense..

Chief
02-17-2008, 07:27 AM
I know what you mean. We end up with Political Chameleons" like Pat Campbell who garner support from the far right CAVE and Patella supporters, then turn around and endorse a Democrat who just announced instead of the young Republican who might need some help.

Or the columbian quotes Charlie Stemper like he's some kind of mage, simply because he has lost too many elections to count, never garnered any kind of majority (I get more hits here in a week than Charlie Stemper has goot votes, cumulatively...) and writes yet another of his mystical Obama-like rants and sends it to the columbian. It's the only place he can get them published anymore I guess, since they don't get put up here or at D4V either one.

We have too many Conservatives who are afraid to stand up and act like Conservatives, because they are afraid of being scorned by the Far Left that infests the local vox populi...

Even Brian Baird endorsed Obama, if he endorsed Her Thighness there would be effigies of him burning from the flagpole down at Esther Short Park...Brian has had too many problems being percieved as "too Conservative" so he needs to hop on the Obama-Mania Bus before the doors shut....

Of course now he's along for the ride when the Obama Bus finally runs out of juice too....

It's too much fun watching these two Democrats beat the hell out of one another right now to worry about what they will do against McCain, or how he will come after them.

I do like the "shady Chicago Socialist" tag though...

Developing....

Waterbuffalo
02-17-2008, 08:45 PM
Well I am going to go and talk to these new kids and find out more about them.. I really want to see what they're made of and see if they're really fit or just a hijinx...

But Brian Baird probably is done with being our Rep. in the house after his stance on the war. But Honestly, I can't think of any one who would want to be in his hot seat unless one of our little fairies from the east Cascade Park wants to run.. :-)

Obama and Hillary will keep peetering on until the convention, then I think the fireworks will start after it.

Why do I personally feel Chief that there are a lot of people in our community that are just too darn tired or busy to stand up and tell a certain minority to put up or shut up for good?

Chief
02-18-2008, 08:19 AM
Good questions all, but I'm short on answers.

There are too many variables right now to be able to definitively predict what will actually happen, but there are a number of troubling scenarios developing that could easily divide this Country along racial lines, the like of which many people in this country have never seen.

Obama is in the rocking chair right now because he is coasting along in a Primary race with Her Thighness, for now. Once the nomination is decided, whomever is the nominee will not only be trying to fight off John McCain, they will be fighting off opposition from within the Democratic Party as well.

The Republicans are getting attention right now about John McCain, and that's all the media wants to report on. Fine. But they are masking a growing problem with Obama-Mania and the Klintoo Arkansas Mafia War Room.

The Clintons, and all of their syncophants, apologists, cronies, and friends will do anything to get Bill and Hill back into the White House. I think a lot of Obama's support is among people who despise Hillary, and want to get the Clintons out of the way early. I don't think they support what Obama wants to do, buecause he hasn't really said much to date.

When people finally start engaging over Obama, and really find out what he wants to do and how, I think enough his support will melt away from him to throw the election to the Rebublicans.

If Hillary is the nominee, she cannot win the Presidency if Black Americans abandon the Democratic Party en masse, and write in Obama on what will amount to a third Party ticket. She could easily lose to McCain under these circumstances as well.

Whomever the nominee, the Democrats are more thoroughly divided than I have ever seen them before. I can identify at least six major factions who threaten to shut down the Democratic nomination process at the convention.

1 Code Pinko: Wait for their non-stop floor demonstrations at the convention.

2. Hardcore Hillary voters

3 Hardcore Obama voters

4. The Greens

5. The Hardcore Anti War Left (other than Code Pinko)

6. Other assorted lesbians, moonbats, undesirables, voting felons, crackheads and meth abusers, the voting homeless, 911 conspiracy theorists, and other assorted lunatic fringe protest groups.

With all of that to work with, it's really hard to see how anyone is going to win this year on the Democratic side. They are so splintered as to be nearly ineefective...

Developing....

Waterbuffalo
02-18-2008, 03:38 PM
Have no problem with the main or left side, its just the lunatic fringe that gets me going in both the Republican and Democractic Parties.

Like you said, this eventually will fall in one place or the other..