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Chief
02-05-2008, 05:27 PM
http://www.columbian.com/business/businessNews/2008/02/02032008_A-vision-for-the-waterfront.cfm

Sunday, February 03, 2008
Julia Anderson, Columbian business editor

Now that the development ice jam is breaking up on Vancouver's waterfront, let's look ahead to what might happen on the 29-acre former Boise Cascade site.

Last week, we learned of two key agreements. First, the Port of Vancouver made a deal with BNSF Railway and Lafarge Concrete to move a rail spur from the middle of the Boise site. Second, Gramor Development and its investor group said the port's agreement triggered their purchase of the Boise property for $19 million. Both transactions closed last week.

So what happens next? Gramor plans to hold meetings with community, civic and business groups to gather input on what should go on the waterfront property before submitting development plans to the city. The intention is to be in construction in 2010 on what is expected to be between $900 million and $1.2 billion worth of office, retail and residential construction.

Let's face it, the Boise site is a gorgeous piece of property that along with three port-owned acres at the Red Lion Hotel at the Quay is the gateway to Vancouver, Clark County and Washington. Some 100,000 vehicles cross the Interstate 5 Bridge on any given day within sight of the property. Passengers on planes arriving and departing from Portland International Airport get a daily aerial view of the location. There's river and rail traffic. It would be difficult to identify another piece of ground on the West Coast as visible and with such dramatic river views as this one. So what would we like to see at the gateway to our community? Here are some thoughts:

* Through some partnership the city, the port, Gramor and the folks involved with the Center for the Arts must work to build a public performing arts center on the site. Such a structure would bring community identity to Clark County, give us a long-hoped-for arts facility and provide an iconic "signature" structure on the waterfront symbolizing our economic energy. Think Sydney Opera House, the Louvre Museum, the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
* Gramor must design a mix of residential housing there available to different income groups; Enough housing for at least 3,000 people. As nice as it is, we don't need another Tidewater Cove, but downtown Vancouver does need a lot more people living within a few blocks of Esther Short Park.
* Something funky. Portland's Pearl District has a bit of funkiness. Let's try for at least as much. That means bringing a diverse mix of businesses to the project. Could McMenamins be enticed to join in the planning? How about a Big Al's bowling center that would draw from all of west Vancouver? How about a movie theater-pub?
* Something for kids. Provide space for some kind of water-oriented interactive educational facility similar to the Seattle Aquarium. Or, even better, a permanent museum linked to the rich Native American history and culture of this region. We've got Fort Vancouver, Officers Row and Pearson Field. A Native American museum such as the fabulous one in Santa Fe, N.M., would offer rotating exhibits of artifacts and live cultural displays. It would complement what we've got.

Let the Cowlitz Tribe pay for it in exchange for getting their casino near La Center.


I don't care what they do down there as long as the City of Vancouver isn't fooring the bill. If this development is such a hot idea, then Gramor won't have any trouble attracting pricate investors.

Lots of wishing, but few new details...

8)

Waterbuffalo
02-05-2008, 11:17 PM
Wonder if Julia used to work in "Public Relations?" That sure sounded like a really NICE article..

Honestly, all of that stuff needs to be privately FUNDED. No government subsidies to the PAC or any of the development.

Why is the local paper not going after the MEAT of this story? Why is their not any more details into the financing?

Sounds like another hilton Chief....

Chief
02-06-2008, 06:05 AM
This has the potential to be another Hiltin times about 20 WB. The City is only kicking in about $2 Million a year into the Hilton, and Boise could end up costing them way more than that somewhere down the road.

Having a vision is one thing, paying for it is quite another.

From what we are hearing now, it will likely be a year or so before we see a Master Plan out of Grmaor for this site. At some point they may come back to the City for money, and we'll take all of this back up again when Council decides to consider this further.

For now, we're relatively safe, but this will still continue to develop behind the scenes.

:cool:

Waterbuffalo
02-06-2008, 03:22 PM
"For now, we're relatively safe, but this will still continue to develop behind the scenes."

How many times have I heard of this one before Chief? Why is there not more public debate on this project and where's is the financing..

Do hope the Master Plan will indicate all of this information.

Chief
02-06-2008, 05:18 PM
Remember that thread where we talked about cultivating those reliable sources in City Hall?? I'm confident that there are no back room deals being made in smoky rooms on this...

The public debate has been lacking, except for here at Clarkblog. We've had more to say about this, and done more meaningful analysis of what's really going on than any other resource here in town.

Waterbuffalo
02-06-2008, 09:42 PM
Is it just me or am I pulling up a karma-like misfit and wondering why there is no more information behind the 20 billion dollar purchase of that land.

Reminds me, I need to get down to POV to look at those maps. Darn wish the POV and BoCC meetings were not during the same day of the week and time frame. Would love to be able to go to both..

Chief
02-07-2008, 05:57 AM
You mean $20 Million...

You should start with an e-mail request to Nelson Holberg at the Port. He can set something up for you, or hook you up with someone who can help you. They are open all week down there, so I'm sure they can fit you into the schedule in a way that suits your needs.


Nelson Holmberg

Communications Manager

Port of Vancouver USA

3103 NW Lower River Road

Vancouver, WA 98660

360-992-1107 - direct

360-518-2553 - mobile

nholmberg@portvanusa.com

Waterbuffalo
02-07-2008, 04:55 PM
You mean $20 Million...

Yes, I meant 20 million.. Standing up to be corrected..