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Chief
01-03-2008, 07:35 AM
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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Edgar
To : steve.stuart@clark.wa.gov ; BettySue.Morris@co.clark.wa.us ; Marc.Boldt@clark.wa.gov
Cc: Distribution
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: address of the report: Bi-State Compact trumps state law and federal law.


Ladies and gentlemen, this email and the enclosed PDF Sheila Martin report are eye openers. Having lived in Vancouver for 15-years and raised in Portland and now living in Clackamas County provides me with a true Bi-State experience and view to our many shared problems and opportunities.

In the recommendations coming from the Sheila Martin report are (page 38) for an effort to 'Create a Pilot Project' where Bi-State understandings, with leadership of the Clark County Commission pushes forward identifying the 'Corridors of Future'. This is a need that is more then just a ground swell. The possible results of new corridors and their impacts are far greater then what has been offered by Dean Lookingbill with his enclosed statements. In fact some of his assessments of the possible impacts are in my opinion, disingenuous. I say that because of his many previous statements and about his support of only, the CRC Project.

I would like for you to ponder the swapping of priority of fixing the Bi-State problem with first just changing the identification of the I-5 corridor to the I-205 corridor and with it all of the priorities and funding options. I-5 corridor cannot be fixed through Portland, there is just not enough money and political will on the Oregon side of the river. It is a 2 and 3-lane capacity corridor with critical choke points and safety impediments that cannot be eliminated in and through Portland.

Every effort should be taken to re-direct as much truck traffic as possible away from the I-5 corridor with the creation of new corridors and by making the I-205 corridor the primary Bi-State freight corridor through our region. This would have far greater impacts then those most often reflected. This would result in significant new opportunities to create greater industrial and job development in Clark County. That would be a win - win!

HCTLRT Transit can have only minor successes, if any in solving the Peak Period Rush Hour commute problems of the I-5 corridor. Its a ribbon on rail that does not take enough people from their homes to their jobs. Tri-Met does not have the will and resources to solve their problems. The impact of HCT stated by the CRC Task Force of 15% is again disingenuous. When people fudge figures like the CRC Task Force has done, I think of the statement of someone 'Being partially Pregnant'.

With the proposed plans of the CRC Task Force, freight mobility in and trough Portland will be brought to a dead stop and the I-5 corridor and any new wide CRC Bridge complex will become a very large parking lot spilling out even worse emissions and damage to the environment. The only way you can could stop or eliminate that problem with this proposed CRC complex bridge and how it would induce more traffic into the I-5 corridor, would be for them to throw on these very high tolls and use regressive TDM methods to push users to other alternatives. Why not build an alternatives like a Bi-State Multi-Mode freight, transit and vehicle corridor to the west and double the capacity of I-205 and just fix the reasonable to fix problems of the I-5 that make sense.

Lets keep all of this simple, the I-5 corridor is BROKEN! Building a new CRC Interstate Bridge Complex with more then doubling the current capacity of the existing I-5 Interstate Bridges without the $15-Billion to $20-Billion funding to make a dent in increasing the capacity of the existing I-5 corridor through Portland would be just stupid. In adding to this stupidity the plan to put tolls on both the I-5 and I-205 Bridges to fund this CRC Bridge that may have to be as much as $6.00 each way would truly hurt Clark County and its citizens and we all know it.

Be careful, they what to take away your authority and give it to people who are not elected and responsible to the citizenry.

Paul Edgar

tefen
01-03-2008, 07:57 AM
Once again, someone calling for a third bridge to the west.

Chief
01-03-2008, 10:28 AM
What's noteworthy I think, is that on the map where they are showing the population density in downtown, none currently exists. The majority of the "density" in the downtown core is from the proposed developments at the Boise Cascade site, and several other projects that have not yet broken ground.

In other words, the transit options being considered for the Downtown area are solutions in search of problems.

Not enough density?? Let's make some!

Not enough traffic congestion to warrant Light Rail?? Nos sweat! We'll create some!

Tell me how else they come up with that red circle over downtown...

tefen
01-04-2008, 06:08 AM
It says "activity center" and the year 2040. It's a plan for what they "expect" to see there, (and also the part of the CRC meeting I thought was most shocking.) But it doesn't actually say that it's "populuation density", nor does it say that it exists today.

Waterbuffalo
01-04-2008, 07:39 AM
The thing that got me thinking of the map was where do these guys think all the new development will do? Downtown is probably the LEAST of a place people want to live unless they are single, senior or don't have children.

Most of the new urban density is going to be out in the Eastside, Central Core where densification hasn't happened and the Urban Growth boundary areas. Do you think Salmon Creek, Felida and Orchards North and South have enough population yet? I still see a lot of pockets of empty land still sitting in those areas that could be filled in.

Honestly, downtown Vancouver ISN"T where all the people are going to move to. When is this reality going to hit in Vancouver?

Tefen thanks for getting us that map.

Could all of these annexations and urban growth boundaries just be a preclude to making a justification to bringing Light Rail all over the County?